[Netalyzr] hello, two things please

Matt Mathis matt.mathis at gmail.com
Wed Jan 3 11:03:25 PST 2018

> Netalyzr is currently not NSF-funded at all. Even if it were, such
> funding doesn't imply open-sourcing of code in any way.

As of a few years ago, many (most?, all?) NSF programs have explicit open
source requirements.     This was not the case prior to about 2004.

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On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Christian Kreibich <christian at icir.org>

> On 01/03/2018 04:07 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > Is it open source?  That could go a long way to making an otherwise
> > doomed project self-sustaining.
> I hear you Brian, but unfortunately that view is simplistic. Running an
> open-source project well takes significant cycles to sustain
> communication, documentation, support, etc. Also, sourcing/managing
> high-quality contributions can be a real challenge. We know this very
> well, since we're already running large open-source projects, such as
> the Bro network monitor.
> > If it's not open source, why isn't it,
> It's not currently open source, but we have repeatedly handed out code
> and data to interested collaborators at our discretion. We didn't
> open-source our code for several reasons, including the additional
> resource drain it would entail, and the fact that we did not want to be
> in the API maintenance business to allow other parties to build tests
> against our back-ends.
> In retrospect, I agree that perhaps we should have, but that's easy to
> say once a project is successful. You'll be happy to hear that once we
> complete the JavaScript-driven version, we will be open-sourcing both
> intentionally and as a side-effect of using that language.
> > particularly when it's being
> > developed at a non-profit center for research in computer science at an
> > .edu?
> Indeed, our mission is fundamental research, so please judge us by the
> success of our papers, not the availability of our code. Our projects
> have anywhere from zero to complete compatibility with open-source
> development, and we structure them accordingly. We are actually one of
> the most open-source-supportive research groups I can think of.
> > Not to mention it's at least partial government (IOW, taxpayer)
> > funded (NSF as one).
> Netalyzr is currently not NSF-funded at all. Even if it were, such
> funding doesn't imply open-sourcing of code in any way.
> Best,
> -C.
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