From christian at icir.org  Wed Feb 27 11:31:03 2019
From: christian at icir.org (Christian Kreibich)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:31:03 -0800
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
Message-ID: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>

Hello Netalyzr users,

After nearly a decade of providing this service we have decided to shut
down Netalyzr in the first week of March 2019. It pains us greatly to do
so, but each team member has at this point moved on to other
responsibilities. We simply no longer have the resources to advance
Netalyzr or to provide reasonable support for your many questions about
connectivity problems.

Our Android app users will receive a final update during this time
that'll make it clear when the testing functionality has gone offline.

To everyone who has used the service over the years: thank you. You all
helped make it such a tremendous success.

To the many colleagues, interns, and collaborators who have worked with
us on the project over the years: thank you so much. We never would have
come this far without you.

Signing off,
The Netalyzr team

From cole.henderson at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 11:41:10 2019
From: cole.henderson at gmail.com (Cole H)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:41:10 -0500
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
Message-ID: <CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?

On Wed., Feb. 27, 2019, 2:38 p.m. Christian Kreibich, <christian at icir.org>
wrote:

> Hello Netalyzr users,
>
> After nearly a decade of providing this service we have decided to shut
> down Netalyzr in the first week of March 2019. It pains us greatly to do
> so, but each team member has at this point moved on to other
> responsibilities. We simply no longer have the resources to advance
> Netalyzr or to provide reasonable support for your many questions about
> connectivity problems.
>
> Our Android app users will receive a final update during this time
> that'll make it clear when the testing functionality has gone offline.
>
> To everyone who has used the service over the years: thank you. You all
> helped make it such a tremendous success.
>
> To the many colleagues, interns, and collaborators who have worked with
> us on the project over the years: thank you so much. We never would have
> come this far without you.
>
> Signing off,
> The Netalyzr team
> _______________________________________________
> Netalyzr mailing list
> Netalyzr at mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
> http://mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/netalyzr
>
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From christian at icir.org  Wed Feb 27 12:14:11 2019
From: christian at icir.org (Christian Kreibich)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:14:11 -0800
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>

On 2/27/19 11:41 AM, Cole H wrote:
> Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?

Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect 
that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support 
and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not 
have cycles for this. "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we 
have ever believed in.

We'll keep an eye out for the community's demand in this regard, and if 
there's a lot of might, might reconsider.

Hope this helps,
-C.

From m at z.je  Wed Feb 27 12:39:38 2019
From: m at z.je (Matthew)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:39:38 +0100
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
Message-ID: <CAAUxfUMp52XOfdU0Yrwx=7RmSOpjcwJeczPLm4cO+eMsUwv73A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 21:21, Christian Kreibich <christian at icir.org> wrote:
>
> On 2/27/19 11:41 AM, Cole H wrote:
> > Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?
> We'll keep an eye out for the community's demand in this regard, and if
> there's a lot of might, might reconsider.
>
+1 to release the source please

From xenophon at irtnog.org  Wed Feb 27 12:54:50 2019
From: xenophon at irtnog.org (Matthew X. Economou)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:54:50 -0500
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
Message-ID: <B56D5B72-3569-4B96-9B64-E96091D79871@irtnog.org>

Absent a source release, is there any documentation for the tests being performed?  Research papers?  Presentations?  I?d hate to see all this operational knowledge disappear.

-- 
I FIGHT FOR THE USERS



From lmurray at trinistorm.org  Wed Feb 27 13:03:04 2019
From: lmurray at trinistorm.org (Lasana Murray)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:03:04 -0400
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
Message-ID: <9abef816-b671-2bab-c25d-25716151f45a@trinistorm.org>

Hi Christian,

If maintainer burnout is the concern, maybe provide the sources via a 
tarball somewhere with a disclaimer?

On 2/27/19 4:14 PM, Christian Kreibich wrote:
> On 2/27/19 11:41 AM, Cole H wrote:
>> Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?
> Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect
> that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support
> and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not
> have cycles for this. "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we
> have ever believed in.
>
> We'll keep an eye out for the community's demand in this regard, and if
> there's a lot of might, might reconsider.
>
> Hope this helps,
> -C.
> _______________________________________________
> Netalyzr mailing list
> Netalyzr at mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
> http://mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/netalyzr

From christian at icir.org  Wed Feb 27 13:09:17 2019
From: christian at icir.org (Christian Kreibich)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 13:09:17 -0800
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <B56D5B72-3569-4B96-9B64-E96091D79871@irtnog.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
	<B56D5B72-3569-4B96-9B64-E96091D79871@irtnog.org>
Message-ID: <98a5b527-61e3-d644-2db8-3cb1d3d37d6c@icir.org>

On 2/27/19 12:54 PM, Matthew X. Economou wrote:
> Absent a source release, is there any documentation for the tests
> being performed?  Research papers?  Presentations?  I?d hate to see
> all this operational knowledge disappear.

Of course, that is what we do -- start here:
http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/papers.html

Best,
-C.

From amreesh.phokeer at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 21:52:13 2019
From: amreesh.phokeer at gmail.com (Amreesh Phokeer)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:52:13 +0400
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <98a5b527-61e3-d644-2db8-3cb1d3d37d6c@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
	<B56D5B72-3569-4B96-9B64-E96091D79871@irtnog.org>
	<98a5b527-61e3-d644-2db8-3cb1d3d37d6c@icir.org>
Message-ID: <CACRw5zmtHSb4ccHD-rO6dP4Tm_80DGEowvogUzeEbYcyWJC7sw@mail.gmail.com>

why not allow the community to fork Netalyzr (with all due credits) and
keep it going somehow if resource is a problem. Keeping a measurement
platform closed is so last century IMHO.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:16 AM Christian Kreibich <christian at icir.org>
wrote:

> On 2/27/19 12:54 PM, Matthew X. Economou wrote:
> > Absent a source release, is there any documentation for the tests
> > being performed?  Research papers?  Presentations?  I?d hate to see
> > all this operational knowledge disappear.
>
> Of course, that is what we do -- start here:
> http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/papers.html
>
> Best,
> -C.
> _______________________________________________
> Netalyzr mailing list
> Netalyzr at mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
> http://mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/netalyzr
>


-- 
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From brian at interlinx.bc.ca  Wed Feb 27 13:27:32 2019
From: brian at interlinx.bc.ca (Brian J. Murrell)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 16:27:32 -0500
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
Message-ID: <78df6892513d73e3d0b3fe6aa9d4aed5e98c6d89.camel@interlinx.bc.ca>

On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 12:14 -0800, Christian Kreibich wrote:
> 
> Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we
> suspect 
> that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for
> support 
> and help requests, which will invariably come),

You are completely free to drop it into the public domain and walk away
from it.  Nobody can oblige you to do more.

> "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we 
> have ever believed in.

With all due respect, that's really a shame when the alternative is
that it just falls down a deep dark hole and never sees the light of
day ever again.

There are lots of even vibrant projects that get forked and the fork is
completely self-supported without anyone ever looking back on the
authors of the original.  I don't see why this source shouldn't be
given the opportunity to enjoy that as a best case outcome, or just
stagnate (but still be available for any enterprising person to pick
up) as a worst case outcome.

Even that worst case scenario is better IMHO, than it just dying and
never being given the opportunity.

Cheers,
b.


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From swmike at swm.pp.se  Thu Feb 28 04:35:53 2019
From: swmike at swm.pp.se (Mikael Abrahamsson)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:35:53 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1902281331510.24327@uplift.swm.pp.se>

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019, Christian Kreibich wrote:

> Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect 
> that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support 
> and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not 
> have cycles for this. "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we 
> have ever believed in.

Hi,

first of all, thank you all for the great work you have done over the 
years.

I don't think anyone will blame you for just throwing the source code over 
the fence and walking away, if the alternative is to just deleting it or 
sticking it in a safe and never letting anyone use it.

Please consider publishing the code under a permissive license (we use 
Apache license v2 for our work) instead of locking it away forever.

It would be really sad if all this work just went to waste, when it could 
have the chance to be the basis of other work.

Thanks again.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se

From matt.mathis at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 08:08:02 2019
From: matt.mathis at gmail.com (Matt Mathis)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 08:08:02 -0800
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1902281331510.24327@uplift.swm.pp.se>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
	<alpine.DEB.2.20.1902281331510.24327@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Message-ID: <CA+s1KQGbQ3K-D9=XYpb7nNQQuyzOVRywz1e=piuhT80xW1YBiw@mail.gmail.com>

I want to second this thought: there are competent teams out there who
could in principle take on a curation role, and maintain the high quality
of the software.

What source control are you currently using?  Is the repo up to date, and
does it match the running servers?    Is building and launching a server
from source (semi) automatic and/or hermetic?

Some of the web100 tools ran for 15+ years after end of funding....  Yes
they are a bit scraggly and suffer from too many authors, but they still
had a lot of impact long after they were unsupported.

Thanks,
--MM--
Matt Mathis  Home & Travel voice: 412-654-7529  SMS and Daytime:
650-417-3029
Email is best, please leave a message if you must call.
-------------------------------------------
Evil is defined by mortals who think they know "The Truth" and use force to
apply it to others.


On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019, Christian Kreibich wrote:
>
> > Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect
> > that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support
> > and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not
> > have cycles for this. "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we
> > have ever believed in.
>
> Hi,
>
> first of all, thank you all for the great work you have done over the
> years.
>
> I don't think anyone will blame you for just throwing the source code over
> the fence and walking away, if the alternative is to just deleting it or
> sticking it in a safe and never letting anyone use it.
>
> Please consider publishing the code under a permissive license (we use
> Apache license v2 for our work) instead of locking it away forever.
>
> It would be really sad if all this work just went to waste, when it could
> have the chance to be the basis of other work.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se
> _______________________________________________
> Netalyzr mailing list
> Netalyzr at mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
> http://mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/netalyzr
>
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From jonwilliams0000 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 10:03:51 2019
From: jonwilliams0000 at gmail.com (Jon W)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 11:03:51 -0700
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
Message-ID: <CAAudtLdg6EccRQEowTcgJYdVHcGZCR01CE3HDB=ohhug7YfnOA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for all you did, it's a wonderful tool.

I urge you please reconsider the position; would be absolutely
heartbreaking to see this good work evaporated.

Respectfully,
Jon

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 1:20 PM Christian Kreibich <christian at icir.org> wrote:

> On 2/27/19 11:41 AM, Cole H wrote:
> > Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?
>
> Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect
> that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support
> and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not
> have cycles for this. "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we
> have ever believed in.
>
> We'll keep an eye out for the community's demand in this regard, and if
> there's a lot of might, might reconsider.
>
> Hope this helps,
> -C.
> _______________________________________________
> Netalyzr mailing list
> Netalyzr at mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
> http://mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/netalyzr
>
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From brucelive at o2.pl  Thu Feb 28 10:23:00 2019
From: brucelive at o2.pl (brucelive)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:23:00 +0100
Subject: [Netalyzr] =?utf-8?q?Odp=3A_Re=3A__Shutting_down_Netalyzr?=
In-Reply-To: <<CAAudtLdg6EccRQEowTcgJYdVHcGZCR01CE3HDB=ohhug7YfnOA@mail.gmail.com>>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<cabho75ny1k92+r3bleaemyhkw2=jx05qg1v0ula=ffy=e1m2kq@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1660ffe40c724c7e9f1f44f27232dedd@grupawp.pl>

Can you stop spam my email ? 
            
          
     
      
       
        Dnia 28 lutego 2019 19:09 Jon W &lt;jonwilliams0000 at gmail.com&gt; napisa?(a):
       
    
       
         Thank you for all you did, it&#39;s a wonderful tool.  I urge you please reconsider the position; would be absolutely heartbreaking to see this good work evaporated.  Respectfully, Jon  On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 1:20 PM Christian Kreibich &lt;   christian at icir.org &gt; wrote:  On 2/27/19 11:41 AM, Cole H wrote:  
&gt; Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?  
  
Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect   
that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support   
and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not   
have cycles for this. &#34;Just throw it up on GitHub&#34; is not a model we   
have ever believed in.  
  
We&#39;ll keep an eye out for the community&#39;s demand in this regard, and if   
there&#39;s a lot of might, might reconsider.  
  
Hope this helps,  
-C.  
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From supercomeg2 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 28 12:09:11 2019
From: supercomeg2 at yahoo.com (Karim Al-sherif)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 22:09:11 +0200
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
In-Reply-To: <CAAudtLdg6EccRQEowTcgJYdVHcGZCR01CE3HDB=ohhug7YfnOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce094416-b07b-c161-336f-aa1344ac4c0a@icir.org>
	<CABho75nY1k92+r3BLEaemyHkW2=Jx05qG1v0uLA=ffY=E1M2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<907f0975-12ed-4e98-c31c-2d612dfea81a@icir.org>
	<CAAudtLdg6EccRQEowTcgJYdVHcGZCR01CE3HDB=ohhug7YfnOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201902282009.x1SK98sQ017923@fruitcake.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU>

Dear Jon,
I am not Christian; although, I am glad that you wrote this email because it showed me how to appreciate fellow workers. Thank you ?.

Karim Al-sherif 
From: Jon W
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:09 PM
To: Christian Kreibich
Cc: netalyzr at ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr

Thank you for all you did, it's a wonderful tool.

I urge you please reconsider the position; would be absolutely heartbreaking to see this good work evaporated.

Respectfully,
Jon

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 1:20 PM Christian Kreibich <christian at icir.org> wrote:
On 2/27/19 11:41 AM, Cole H wrote:
> Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?

Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect 
that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support 
and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not 
have cycles for this. "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we 
have ever believed in.

We'll keep an eye out for the community's demand in this regard, and if 
there's a lot of might, might reconsider.

Hope this helps,
-C.
_______________________________________________
Netalyzr mailing list
Netalyzr at mailman.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
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From jeaninmontana at msn.com  Thu Feb 28 16:09:59 2019
From: jeaninmontana at msn.com (Jean Dahl)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 00:09:59 +0000
Subject: [Netalyzr] Sorry to see you go.
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I am not going to get honest tests without you folks. Thank you for your time, sacrifice, and the years you provided the service freely. Best of luck.
JeanInMontana


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Today's Topics:

   1. Shutting down Netalyzr (Christian Kreibich)
   2. Re: Shutting down Netalyzr (Cole H)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:31:03 -0800
From: Christian Kreibich <christian at icir.org>
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
To: netalyzr at ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
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Hello Netalyzr users,

After nearly a decade of providing this service we have decided to shut
down Netalyzr in the first week of March 2019. It pains us greatly to do
so, but each team member has at this point moved on to other
responsibilities. We simply no longer have the resources to advance
Netalyzr or to provide reasonable support for your many questions about
connectivity problems.

Our Android app users will receive a final update during this time
that'll make it clear when the testing functionality has gone offline.

To everyone who has used the service over the years: thank you. You all
helped make it such a tremendous success.

To the many colleagues, interns, and collaborators who have worked with
us on the project over the years: thank you so much. We never would have
come this far without you.

Signing off,
The Netalyzr team


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:41:10 -0500
From: Cole H <cole.henderson at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
To: Christian Kreibich <christian at icir.org>
Cc: netalyzr at ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
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Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?

On Wed., Feb. 27, 2019, 2:38 p.m. Christian Kreibich, <christian at icir.org>
wrote:

> Hello Netalyzr users,
>
> After nearly a decade of providing this service we have decided to shut
> down Netalyzr in the first week of March 2019. It pains us greatly to do
> so, but each team member has at this point moved on to other
> responsibilities. We simply no longer have the resources to advance
> Netalyzr or to provide reasonable support for your many questions about
> connectivity problems.
>
> Our Android app users will receive a final update during this time
> that'll make it clear when the testing functionality has gone offline.
>
> To everyone who has used the service over the years: thank you. You all
> helped make it such a tremendous success.
>
> To the many colleagues, interns, and collaborators who have worked with
> us on the project over the years: thank you so much. We never would have
> come this far without you.
>
> Signing off,
> The Netalyzr team
> _______________________________________________
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From jonwilliams0000 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 16:33:18 2019
From: jonwilliams0000 at gmail.com (Jon W)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:33:18 -0700
Subject: [Netalyzr] Shutting down Netalyzr
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I didn't subscribe you to this list.  Thanks!

Jon

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM brucelive <brucelive at o2.pl> wrote:

> Can you stop spam my email ?
>
> Dnia 28 lutego 2019 19:09 Jon W <jonwilliams0000 at gmail.com> napisa?(a):
>
> Thank you for all you did, it's a wonderful tool.
>
> I urge you please reconsider the position; would be absolutely
> heartbreaking to see this good work evaporated.
>
> Respectfully,
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 1:20 PM Christian Kreibich < <christian at icir.org>
> christian at icir.org> wrote:
>
> On 2/27/19 11:41 AM, Cole H wrote:
> > Is the source code available for setting up our own servers?
>
> Not at the moment, sorry. Based on our open-source experience we suspect
> that open-sourcing will add substantially to our workload (for support
> and help requests, which will invariably come), and we simply do not
> have cycles for this. "Just throw it up on GitHub" is not a model we
> have ever believed in.
>
> We'll keep an eye out for the community's demand in this regard, and if
> there's a lot of might, might reconsider.
>
> Hope this helps,
> -C.
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