[Bro] Get the license usage down in Splunk when indexing Bro logs

Mike Eriksson mike at swedishmike.org
Tue Jul 11 22:09:16 PDT 2017


Osama,

I'm starting to lean towards this as being the next step to look into once
I've looked at the suggestions from the list.

More suggestions are of course very welcome ;-)

Cheers, Mike

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:08 PM Osama Elnaggar <oelnaggar04 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> To build on some of the suggestions, you may also want to tier your
> logging.  You can send high value logs which can kick off an investigation
> to Splunk while sending less valuable logs which will help in
> investigations but not start them to something like ELK or ELSA / ODE.
> This will add a little overhead to your operations and involves more moving
> parts but can significantly reduce your licensing costs.
>
> --
> Osama Elnaggar
>
> On July 12, 2017 at 4:57:21 AM, Joshua Buysse (buysse at umn.edu) wrote:
>
> I think I know where Mike's misunderstanding comes from - the JSON logs
> are larger original size (for license volume), but will use less space on
> indexer disk than the default TSV because the extractions are search-time
> instead of index-time.
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Dave Crawford <bro at pingtrip.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The JSON logs will always be larger than the default tab delimited. With
>> JSON every log event includes the "column" names versus a set of headers in
>> he delimited format.
>>
>> > On Jul 11, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Mike Eriksson <mike at swedishmike.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > We're currently working on deploying Bro sensors to various offices and
>> I've come to realise that the Bro logs are quite 'expensive' when it comes
>> to Splunk licenses. To say the least.
>> >
>> > We have discussed various solutions but most of them fall down on us
>> losing the ability to correlate events unless we shift all the logs in to
>> Splunk.
>> >
>> > At the moment we're running it pretty much 'out of the box' so we can
>> save some GB's per day to turn of certain scripts, but it will probably not
>> be enough.
>> >
>> > Someone mentioned that turning on JSON logging instead of the standard
>> logging on Bro could save considerable amounts of space on your SIEM. Have
>> any of you guys tested this and can you back that  statement up?
>> >
>> > I was hoping that someone else had encountered this before and had come
>> up with some solution(s) to this issue?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance, Mike
>> >
>> >
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